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How to Scam Paypal Users on Ebay and make Money

Do you want to get your revenge on networkowned sites like eBay and Paypal and make large bank at the same time?

It’s simple, I’ll explain 3 easy steps to accomplish this.

First off, lets remember that Paypal is not a Payment service, so whatever happens between a buyer and seller using the ebay/paypal system is always between the buyer and seller.

Next lets keep in mind that Paypal is out to get all your money, or anything they can get by charging you high usage fees and high final value fees on eBay. Sell something for $100 on eBay and you will pay $25.00 or more in the end. So keep in mind they are ripping off the sellers before anything is even said. So “an eye for an eye”, in my opinion.

Lets also keep in mind that most if not all 0 percent feedback buyers on ebay are actually out to screw the seller or not pay you. So the fraud is mounting already before you even do anything.

Lastly before we get started keep in mind that Paypal or eBay has no jurisdiction over your goods that you sell or buy off eBay so neither eBay or Paypal can’t be held responsible for anything that goes wrong.

Now lets begin with the perfect eBay/Paypal scam:

Step 1: Go to your bank account and get a savings account placed in your name.

Step 2: Go online and start a paypal account under and add that that bank account to your paypal account.

Step 3: Find a real expensive item that a buyer might want to buy such as a guitar and post it for sale.

Tell the buyers inside the auction that you need to be left your positive feedback before you ship out the item so you can get paid, because the item is a large ticket item. If you have to point them to the Paypal policy that states they hold funds for 21 days until positive feedback is left. Your auction should be set so that you offer refunds, and the seller pays for return shipping. You can always use that as a bargaining tool to get them to leave your feedback right away. You can also let them know that if they don’t get the item the feedback can be revised and go ahead and explain to them how that is done. You should also have multiple auctions going at the same time, so you can get paid by a bunch of people.

Step 4: Once the buyers send you payment to your paypal account, simply withdraw the funds to your checking, and then contact the buyers stating you got their payments and their items will now be shipped out. Go to your local post office and send them a letter with tracking with nothing in it, and then furnish them with a tracking number 3 days later and let them know the package was mailed out late because you had a death in the family. By this time, your money had been deposited into your checking account from 5 different buyers for “X” amount of dollars. After you confirm that the money has been deposited into your account, simply go to your bank and tell the officer you wish to close out your account (your using for paypal) and use the excuse that someone got into your paypal account and your doing it for security reasons. You don’t even have to give an excuse just tell the clerk (bank officer) that you wish to close out the account and withdraw the money from it.

Step 5: Go back home and close out the paypal account or no longer use it. Then you can start another one with a new account at another bank. Remember paypal cannot verify name or address information on a bank account, they can only verify (for deposit reasons only) the routing number and account number. So you could in fact give them a name of “Jack Smith” when creating your paypal account and a fake address, as long as the routing and account numbers are the same as your bank account your deposits will still go into it. Never sign up or upgrade your paypal account to a business account because then they will require additional information on you and you will not be able to screw buyers.

I think because of the practices on ebay and paypal and all the hurt they have done to it’s sellers, they deserve all the fraud they get. We think an eye for an eye is the right thing here. This will prevent new buyers from signing up to the eBay system.

Now you might say well, can the buyer come after me for mail fraud? Well, you didn’t commit any mail fraud, you simply sent a letter in the mail with a tracking number on it, and the information you use in ebay and in paypal will be bogus anyway so they will never be able to come after you. Paypal will have to write the loss off, or tell the buyer they can’t refund the money especially after the seller closed their bank account Paypal will not be able to put their hands into it and get the funds. Remember Paypal allows $500 per month to be withdrawn at a time under a regular paypal account. And if the buyers do not leave the positive feedback for you to get your funds, you simply tell them you can’t ship it because you need to be paid in order to ship out a large ticket item like that. Some new buyers will take the bait and do it.

PaypalBlows, so lets show them we have the upper hand.

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How to Start another Paypal account if you Lose Yours..

We don’t recommend using Paypal at all but if you feel the need to use them and your old account was limited its very easy to start up another one.

The first think that Paypal will do is check your IP address against their data base. If the IP is an anonymous  proxy IP you will for sure get your account limited.

The first thing you want to do is go to a bank, deposit $500 in a new savings account or $100 for a new checking account, (all banks are different) in that respect. Being that Paypal can’t verify the name and address associated with a Bank savings Account they will not be able to find out really who owns it. They can only verify the account and routing numbers of the account. So when you sign up to paypal for your new PP account use a different name and an address someone you know has in case they want to send you out a PIN number through the mail, you can have your friend get it for you and give it to you.

If you don’t want any friends or relatives getting your mail you can always modify your home address for example if you live here:

41110 Mainport Lane
Cartsville, NY 12110

You can Use:

41110 Mainport Lane Suite 1 or

41110 Mainport Lane Suite 1-A or

41110 Mainport Lane Suite A 001

and so on.

If your account gets limited, you simply call the bank and change the account number. Tell them you think someone got your account info.

Always sign up for a personal (not a business) account. There are simply more hoops to jump through with Payscum then you can imagine. I for the life of me do not know why a payment service limits itself by closing off customers/clients like they do. When you get that email from Paypal saying they have to limit your account because something on it is suspicious, this is Paypal saying, were going to try and keep your money for a while and earn interest on it because we simply don’t like the fact that your starting to make money with our service. When you make money with Paypal, funds are transfered from party to party and not Paypal, so they can’t get greedy and take more,  they then limit your account in retaliation or because they want to know more about you, and when they want to know more about you, they want more information to hold against you. If you get emails from PP asking you to send in all kinds of identification such as photo ID, etc etc.. Just photoshop your ID information or simply refuse to send it. At that time they have already decided not to keep you as a customer, so there is no sense in sending them in more information to hold against you.

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You Must have a Premier or Business Account for Payment!!!

What the fuck???

Ok Paypal requires you to have a Premier or Business account in order for your Ebay buyers to make Immediate payment to you on your auctions through “Buy it Now”! I don’t get this… Why would it matter?

Is it so Paypal can acquire further private information on you through providing more and more information about yourself? Is it so Paypal can send you that all familiar dreaded letter down the road accusing you of using your account fraudulently and that they no longer want to do business with you?

What’s the reason??

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Paypal Holds My Money

Yes PP held my money too! I’m a new user on Ebay and Paypal and when I saw this I said to myself what kind of companies am I doing business with. There is not a company in the world that sells goods or services to people and doesn’t require payment after goods and services have been provided.

If Donald Trump (Our Next President of the United States I hope) had 10 million dollars held on him for 5 years for a tenant moving into one of his buildings he would be pissed. The man wants his money right away for his business deal.

Here is a video of what happened to me:
Payment Holds

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Another Paypal Policy – WTF???

Ok I opened up my email and got this message:

We’d like to continue providing you information about your account electronically such as through email, web pages, and .pdf files. In order for us to continue sending you information about your account electronically, please read and accept our Electronic Communications Delivery Policy today.

I Agree
I have read the Electronic Communications Delivery Policy (E-Sign Disclosure and Consent) and agree that PayPal may provide information to me about my PayPal account electronically. I confirm that I can access and print or save emails, web pages and .pdf files that PayPal sends or otherwise makes available to me.

Then it will ask you to either “Agree” or “Remind me later” then if you click “remind me later” it then takes you to a page telling you this:

Starting in January 2012, your PayPal account will be temporarily deactivated and you will not be able to send or receive funds using your PayPal account until you provide your consent to our Electronic Communications Delivery Policy.

Please read and accept the Electronic Communications Delivery Policy now.

So Now I read the policy and it states:

This policy describes how PayPal delivers communications to you electronically. We may amend this policy at any time by posting a revised version on our website. The revised version will be effective at the time we post it. In addition, if the revised version includes a substantial change, we will provide you with 30 days’ prior notice by posting notice of the change on the “Policy Updates” page of our website.

Electronic delivery of communications

You agree and consent to receive electronically all communications, agreements, documents, notices and disclosures (collectively, “Communications”) that we provide in connection with your PayPal account (“Account”) and your use of our services. Communications include:

agreements and policies you agree to (e.g., the PayPal User Agreement and the PayPal Privacy Policy), including updates to these agreements or policies;
annual disclosures, including prospectuses and reports for PayPal Funds;
transaction receipts or confirmations;
Account statements and history;
federal and state tax statements we are required to make available to you; and
any other Account, PayPal Funds account, or transaction information.
We will provide these Communications to you by posting them on the PayPal website and/or by emailing them to you at the primary email address listed in your PayPal profile.

Hardware and software requirements

In order to access and retain electronic Communications, you will need the following computer hardware and software:

a computer with an Internet connection;
a current web browser that includes 128-bit encryption (e.g. Internet Explorer version 6.0 and above, Firefox version 2.0 and above, Chrome version 3.0 and above, or Safari 3.0 and above) with cookies enabled;
Adobe Acrobat Reader version 8.0 and above to open documents in .pdf format;
a valid email address (your primary email address on file with PayPal); and
sufficient storage space to save past Communications or an installed printer to print them.
We will notify you if there are any material changes to the hardware or software needed to receive electronic Communications from PayPal. By giving your consent you are confirming that you have access to the necessary equipment and are able to receive, open, and print or download a copy of any Communications for your records. You may print or save a copy of these Communications for your records as they may not be accessible online at a later date.

How to withdraw your consent

You may withdraw your consent to receive Communications electronically by contacting us via the “Contact Us” link at the bottom of each page of the PayPal website. If you fail to provide or if you withdraw your consent to receive Communications electronically, PayPal reserves the right to either deny your application for an Account, restrict or deactivate your Account, close your Account and any sub-account (such as a Student Account), or charge you additional fees for paper copies.

After you consent to receive Communications electronically, you may withdraw your consent to receive IRS Form 1099-K electronically by contacting us as described above. You will continue to receive all your other Communications electronically, but we will send your Form 1099-Ks to you by U.S. mail.

Requesting paper copies of electronic Communications

If, after you consent to receive Communications electronically, you would like a paper copy of a Communication we previously sent you, you may request a copy within 180 days of the date we provided the Communication to you by contacting us as described above. We will send your paper copy to you by U.S. mail. In order for us to send you paper copies, you must have a current street address on file as your “Home” address in your PayPal profile. If you request paper copies, you understand and agree that PayPal may charge you a Records Request Fee for each Communication. The Records Request Fee will not be charged if you request a Form 1099-K in paper form; for all other Communications, the Records Request Fee is set out in Section 8 of the User Agreement.

Updating your contact information

It is your responsibility to keep your primary email address up to date so that PayPal can communicate with you electronically. You understand and agree that if PayPal sends you an electronic Communication but you do not receive it because your primary email address on file is incorrect, out of date, blocked by your service provider, or you are otherwise unable to receive electronic Communications, PayPal will be deemed to have provided the Communication to you.

Please note that if you use a spam filter that blocks or re-routes emails from senders not listed in your email address book, you must add PayPal to your email address book so that you will be able to receive the Communications we send to you.

You can update your primary email address or street address at any time by logging into the PayPal website, going to “My Account”, and selecting the “Profile” tab. If your email address becomes invalid such that electronic Communications sent to you by PayPal are returned, PayPal may deem your Account to be inactive, and you will not be able to transact any activity using your PayPal Account until we receive a valid, working primary email address for you.

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How to close down Paypal Accounts on Adult Webmaster Forums

This video below shows you how to effectively close down paypal accounts in adult webmaster forums. These idiots are stupid enough to give out their paypal account for goods and services lets ruin it for all of them by using the threat of the PP TOS to make sure they no longer do business on PP.

To email paypal their email addresses simply address your emails to “aup@paypal.com,compliance@paypal.com,security@paypal.com,trust@paypal.com” and this should do the trick. Paypal will then do their internal investigation and eventually hammer these people with account limitations.

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Photo ID Required to Close Paypal Account?

PayPal I guess tried to send me a replacement debit card while I was deployed. Naturally I didn’t get it, so after replying to the dozen or so emails to activate a card I didn’t actually have I had to re-apply with a credit check to get a replacement debit card.

I then got an email that there was a problem with my account and to go the resolution center. In order to keep my account unlimited I now have to send in a Photo ID as the only way to verify my account. Ok, so I’ve had to update my password, verify addresses and account information, re-apply for a debit card with a credit check and now they want me to send them a Photo ID.

Well, I don’t use this account anymore and I haven’t for months. So now I want to just close it, instead of disclosing any more of my personal information to PayPal.

So I tried to call the customer service number, which I was only able to find by dong a Google search (the number I finally found is 1-402-935-2050). The Google search also revealed other frustrated PayPal customers.

Once I got a person on the phone, I was told that I HAD TO SUBMIT THE PHOTO ID IN ORDER TO CLOSE MY ACCOUNT!!! WHAT???!!

PayPal policies and some new Federal regulations still can’t/won’t allow me to close my account even with all the information I provided until I submit a photo ID. This is ridiculous and is it even legal?

I understand needing all that for opening an account, but to close it? This is taking “for security purposes” too far! I didn’t have to provide all this to open any accounts!

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Unless you have time and money to waste, Paypal is a scam

I have called in with the same problem for the FOURTH time today!! Once again a horrible experience!! Believe me I am a VERY patient, polite, reasonable person whom have never received such treatment from ANY company I have business with!! All I ask for is a CONSTANT answer! If they is one mistake made, fine no problem were all human BUT when you have the same problem FOUR times!!! THERE IS A PROBLEM!! Each and EVERY time I call in I am told something completely different then the previous agent! I can never get a concrete answer or even someone that SPEAKS PROPER ENGLISH!! I have been rushed, ignored, on hold for over a hour and a half, over talked, and transfer to Ebay WITHOUT my consent or resolving the issue only to YET AGAIN explain my story AGAIN and to AGAIN receive no resolution! Today I CANCELED my PayPal account and will NEVER use AGAIN!!…

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Paypal Is A Scam! – This is a great video!

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